BBC Interviews Chris Grollnek, Active Shooter Expert | BBC World News (UK Worldwide)
In this BBC World News (UK Worldwide) interview from Washington, D.C., the BBC interviews Chris Grollnek, retired police detective corporal and founder of the Active Shooter Prevention Project™ (ASPP™), who provides expert insight as an active shooter investigation unfolds in real time. Speaking to an international audience, Grollnek explains how early reports are often incomplete or inaccurate, why urban and university environments significantly complicate suspect searches, and how investigations frequently hinge on seemingly small observations from witnesses who may not realize what they saw mattered.
During the interview, Grollnek underscores a critical reality supported by decades of data: most active shooter incidents occur within 0 to 8 minutes, while average police response times mirror that same window. This operational gap highlights why communities cannot respond their way out of the problem and why prevention must be treated as essential, not optional, alongside traditional response capabilities.
Grollnek highlights the need for indoor mapping and navigation for first responders, real-time camera analytics, weapons detection, gunshot detection sensors, appropriate access control procedures, and realistic, knowledge-based training that avoids fear-driven messaging. These layered systems give law enforcement and security teams clearer situational awareness, faster decision-making, and more options when seconds matter.
This framework is formally defined in the P.R.O. Model™ (Prevention. Response. Options.), recognized as an “A” National Standard for violence prevention and response. Through the Active Shooter Prevention Project™ (ASPP™), this standard is advanced with a commitment to accessibility, offering more free prevention resources than commercial products because preparedness should never be limited by cost.
Just as fire prevention standards transformed public safety decades ago, prevention-first national standards can reduce the human toll of targeted violence today while supporting first responders and protecting communities. The mission remains clear and unwavering: advance prevention, strengthen response, and move society toward Destination #NEVERHERE™.
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Effective active shooter prevention training focuses on stopping violence before it escalates by combining awareness, preparedness, and practical decision-making. The P.R.O. Model™ (Prevention. Response. Options.), recognized as an “A” National Standard, provides organizations with a clear, prevention-first framework that complements law enforcement response while reducing risk to people and facilities. Through the Active Shooter Prevention Project™ (ASPP™), these evidence-based principles are made widely accessible because the goal of prevention is not survival after the fact, but achieving Destination #NEVERHERE™.
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Written by : Chris Grollnek
Chris founded the Active Shooter Prevention Project (ASPP™), LLC, which uses a multi-faceted approach to offer comprehensive solutions from a broad spectrum of partners and is focused on preventing incidents before they occur. As Chairman of the Board & Founding Principal, Chris and the Community of Experts he established built the P.R.O. Model™ (Prevention. Response. Options.) into “A” National Standard for active shooter prevention. It was selected by the U.S. Department of Justice twice, in 2022 and again in 2026, for the Assistant United States Attorneys and across the Department, and it is in use at some installations and commands across the Department of Defense.
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